Attracting young people: affordable housing
Follow up Topic: Affordable Housing
Young People: What Opportunities for Life and Livelihood?
Volunteers: How to Show Appreciation? How to Prevent Burn-out?
Follow Up Topic – Volunteer Database
How can we begin to be self sufficient in food supply?
Follow up Topic: Promoting Local Food Production & Consumption
Emergency Services on Saturna; Who, where, how
What is the Future of the Saturna Community Club
Church - Do we need it? Do we want it?
CLIMATE CHANGE -- Saturna's Carbon Footprint
Follow up Topic: Green Transportation
Follow up Topic: First Steps Towards Connections with First Nations
How to make the Rec Centre self-sustainable?
Turning Negative Energy to Positive Energy
Saturna Ecological Education Centre: Community Interconnections
Discovering, Recording and Sharing Saturna's History
How Can We Provide Supports to Enable People to “Age in Place”?
Convenor: Sebastian
Participants: Graeme, Barb, Lorne, Jane, Sharon, Annie, Michael, Suzanne, Ellen, Elisabeth, Bill S., Janet
Summary of discussions:
Identified problem with finding decent affordable accommodation
Lack of rentals
Mono culture-lack of diversity of ages & cultures
Community purchased land, e.g. Carefree Court can be expanded
Rent is fixed and rises only with inflation
Expansion would require adjustment to zoning regulations but variances are possible
There has to be a waiting list to generate expansion
Present regulations are for people over age 55 yrs but this can be varied if there is a need established for housing for other groups
Regulations appear to be more relevant to urban settings
Identified that there are many many empty homes and guest cottages
Concerns that rental accommodations have been damaged by tenants, etc. (hire a manager)
There is a lot of work available for young people
What can we do as a community to encourage young people to develop small business e.g. hairdressing, cleaning, park related services, e.g. rentals, Internet based businesses
Need a public forum for generating ideas
We need more babies!!!!
Could the Lodge be purchased and developed into affordable housing or an ESL live-in college, or year round conference center for business or the arts
Want a healthy balanced community with school, theatre, movies, and diversity of ages and cultures, dinners, dancing, etc
Ideas re affordable housing: encourage co-ownership of the Lodge, or rental housing; encourage/support young people to share and/or co-
purchase; encourage boarding houses
Saturna culture seems to be a bit divided; younger people and older people don’t mix
Possible gathering places for young people: café, pub, potentially the lodge, rec center, community hall
Suggestions for sharing culture: bring your culture’s dinner, bring out the hidden musicians, organize dances, open stage, open mike; use both the rec center and the community hall
Have a place available for young people to use to organize regular dances and music; encourage all ages to attend
Can apply to Parks and Rec for funding
Topic Champion: Annie
Notes: Charles
Those Who Will Assist: Juliet, Priscilla, Marg, Barb, Sebastian, Brian DW, Steve, Graeme, Hubertus
We know the need, what steps can we take next?
We identified two distinct areas where actions can be taken:
1) New Affordable Housing 2) Using Existing Housing Stock
1) New Affordable Housing:
--- There’s been quite a history of discussions by the Community with the Trust and CRD to try to make affordable housing projects work, without success to date. Wherever land is expensive it is hard to make the numbers work. Offers to build “low cost” units in exchange for higher density never guarantees the “low cost” more than 5 years.
--- Zoning can be a barrier as well: Carefree Court has the zoning for 4 more units, whereas in a rural zone, a lengthy public process to allow rental units to be permitted.
Steps:
Brian will talk to Trustee Brian Hollingshead (who has been involved in the issue) about zoning possibilities, smaller lots, etc.
Brian also says: If we won’t be able to stay here in old age if there are no young people on the Island, then we who have some means do have a responsibility – maybe a shareholding company that would support new construction. Lets see the Islanders in some way facilitate the building process…maybe Shares, some way to participate. [sounds interesting to many]
Steve mentions the First Nations people’s stated interest in considering creating low cost housing (talking of a pad rental system), and suggests we could partner with them to do this. Perhaps offer construction apprenticeships as a spin-off? [partnering might give the community some input into where and what is contemplated for such a project, in exchange for some forms of support] *See Topic: Saturna – First Nations Relationships
Annie will talk to John Gaines about the how’s of affordable housing.
Charles will pursue the question of density transfer from large landholdings towards a “town centre” concentration [which might serve reducing our carbon footprint as well].
2) Using Existing Housing Stock:
a)--- we all see big houses that are empty except for a few weeks a year, while a place to rent can’t be found. It doesn’t seem right. However, many people have unhappy stories to tell of tenants who trashed their places, or at least left them dirty and damaged. How do we convince owners to be landlords again?
--- Barb does property management for a number of owners (as does Gloria Manzano) – absent owners’ insurance policies require a checking-up presence. If the heat is on over winter months, you need an almost daily presence. As well, Barb sees deterioration from neglect, not only from occupancy.
--- Brian notes that large damage deposits could be a barrier to young renters; could there be a way for the community to assist?
Steps:
Barb will speak to some of her clients about the potential benefits of having renters, and the potential to have her manager services including renter-vetting.
Juliet will write a piece for the Scribbler that balances potential benefits to the community of increasing rental stock with potential benefits to owners having long-term residents, perhaps with property management services to smooth the way
b)--- Hubertus raised the question whether Parks and Rec, which owns a rental house (along with its creekshore property), could sign it over to some community entity that could then leverage to buy another property (maybe with Parks and Rec, another creekside property is up for sale now), so that something could be generated.
Steps:
[Charles notes that such a ‘community entity” could overlap with Brian’s idea of a Community Shares entity for new housing – could such an entity be created to do both new and existing properties, and do partnerships with organizations such as Parks and Rec? Charles will pursue this with Brian, Hubertus, and whomever else.]
c)--- Its noted that basement rental suites are actually illegal under our island zoning, the community is actually asking for an exemption in one local case because the need is so great. One obstacle is the perceived problem of Short Term Vacation Rentals, where new houses or suites are operated on a weekly rental (or shorter) during peak times (and then not considered worth bothering with longer rentals in the off season).
--- Could licensing fees be used to offset community costs of STVR, or channeled into a community Affordable Housing Entity?
Convenor: Frank Godwin
Participants: Charles, Steve, Linda, Jon, Morgan, Joan, Harry, Susanne, Melvyn, Marg, Ellen, Jane, Bill
Summary of discussions:
· Saturna is a mature forest without much room for new growth unless a big forest fire sweeps through. How can we allow the new growth and avoid the forest fire?
· there are "nurse stumps" on the island; we are rich in elders.
· only one young person from the island is at this event
· need to connect with aboriginal community and encourage their young to come here; then we mentor them as a community
· issue: high cost of real estate; almost empty houses which are not for rent
· employment is a big issue too, but housing is bigger
· there are only 8 students in the school: does not look promising.
· School District has started Saturna Ecological Learning Centre as a tool for bringing other learners to Saturna. Whole community needs to be part of learning and teaching e.g., apprenticeship opportunities with Hubertus, working with recycling.
· the Ecological Learning Centre dovetails nicely with national park; big opportunity.
· the rec centre helps to make the community more attractive to prospective residents
· could we bring in field study programs on sustainability, holistic environmentalism from colleges and universities? Yes, there is interest, but need a bigger student body.
· we could do workshops on organic gardening, cobb construction, etc. to bring in older learners.
· we could explore eco-tourism opportunities; bring that $$ in.
· School District is actively looking at a lot of these things; might build a few cabins on the school site for overnighting learners. If someone else comes forward with land, could move the cabins there.
· Breezy Bay affords an opportunity; there is a new group working there. There may be other places too.
· is there an opportunity for an "open" boarding school (unlike native residential schools)? We need to teach employable skills.
· in summer, many people are here looking for services. All of a sudden in autumn, the demand dies off.
· we need apprentices for Bill and Harvey - here is an opportunity not being seized.
· we need to start building homes with suites; not just these retirement homes for two people.
· there are two industries on Saturna: 1) summer homes 2) retirement homes. Neither of them can sustain a community.
· we have a healthy culture among the 300 permanent residents; not a lot of conflict. We can use we "retired" folks as mentors/elders for younger influx.
· we should look at half-full glass - at our resources and opportunities. We may just have to re-distribute some of the resources.
· there ARE young people on the island; they work at the vineyard, at the bakery. But none of these jobs are high-paying. But the issue is housing.
· Also, if the "young" group is too small, there is no social momentum i.e., just because you are both 30 years old, doesn't mean you like each other.
· we do have an opportunity as individuals to share our living space.
· we need more opportunities for age groups to intersect e.g., dancing. Maybe we need to take the initiative - go play pool with the young people, eat with them.
· perhaps a few investors could get together to buy up and manage a few houses now for sale on the island - or the Lodge - and turn them into rental accommodation.
· the community plan foresaw rental units sprinkled amongst single-family owned residential areas, but it has not happened.
· water could be an issue if more people come.
· Carefree Court could have four more units but no one is interested to build them. (8 units per 2 acres if you are non-profit.)
· maybe it will take a generation or two to get the private single-family home out of our systems.
· there are young people who want to be on this island, but we don't have room for them.
· we can make places for young people to live and not expect to make a bunch of $$ from it.
· young folks around could help the older folks to "age in place"
Convenor: Athena
Participants: Athena, Judy, Janet, Marg, Patti
Summary of discussions:
Over-riding Ideas:
· Volunteers are the strength of our community!
· Saturna has an especially wonderful, hard-working group of volunteers.
· We need to let volunteers know that everyone cares about what they/we do.
· Volunteers make us feel safe and cared for in our community.
· Volunteering can be a fun, social way to get to know people.
· Volunteering can be a way to contribute and show you care.
· No one has to volunteer if they don't want to!
· Volunteers need to take care of themselves first. Take breaks when you need them.
To-Dos:
· Make a comprehensive list of all services and clubs that depend on volunteers
· This list includes current contact people
· Have each service or club make job descriptions for each volunteer position
· Encourage each group to break jobs into smaller, time-specific, tasks so that part-timers, high school students, and young people with full-time jobs don't get overwhelmed by the commitment required.
· Create short-term jobs that don't involve going to meetings for the people who only have a short amount of time.
· Have a volunteer job board up at the General Store
· This volunteer job board would include a monthly appreciation feature.
· Have a "Volunteer Opportunity" section in the Scribbler. Announce in the Scribbler: "Have you thanked a volunteer this month?"
(We found out that the community website is alive! Denise and Ben are re-doing it and the focus is volunteer clubs and committees!!!) The list of services and club that require jobs and the positions could be posted on this community website.
· Logo? Them is Us.
· Part-timers need to feel welcomed and invited to help out with the community. It's a good way to socialize and get to know Islanders.
· Have volunteer opportunities fall on weekends or evenings, instead of during weekdays, so working and part-timers, as well as students can participate.
· People with burn-out who haven't volunteered in years need to be encouraged to try again.
· Volunteer Appreciation Dinner once a year for all the services and clubs that have volunteers? Or is this too much work? Mayne Island does it.
· A list of substitutes, willing to take over on a temporary basis, if you need a break from your volunteer position, or are going away for a few months. This could be posted on the Volunteer job board (General Store, Community Website, Scribbler.)
· Updated volunteer job list for the Welcome Wagon. Give this list to the Realtors?
· A secret society that gives anonymous "warm fuzzies" to hard-working volunteers.
· An on-island workshop with "volunteer organizer experts" to refresh and renew the strategies of all the volunteer services and committees.
· Firefighters do a good job of attracting energetic volunteers, they could share they strategies with other groups.
Groups that require volunteers: (NOT COMPLETE!!!! ADD TO THIS LIST WHAT"S MISSING!)
· Community Club
· Health Committee
· Fire Fighters
· Rec Centre
· S Broad Band Co-op
· First Responder
· Fire Protection Society
· Saturna Women's Service Club
· Lamb BBQ
· Scribbler
· Church
· Emergency Services
· Recycling
· Parks and Rec
· Arts & Concerts Society
· Lion's Club
· Ferries/RCMP/Parks liaison
· School
· Saturna Website
· Library
· Water Protection
Topic Champion:David Cheslow
The group started by brainstorming what sorts of information should/
could be maintained in a database. The best candidates for an online
database fall into three categories:
1) things that change often
2) things where the inputs come from many disparate places
3) collections of things to be made more accessible
Ideas included:
"Dreggs Lumber" - Because we live on an island, we all buy too much
material for construction projects. A clearinghouse for the left
over "dreggs" might be useful. Dave C will build a prototype.
Volunteer Management Tips - Shirley has a collection of documents
that she would like to share on this subject. Other document
collections are possible. Dave C/Shirley S/Denise K
Organization database - This is the one that started the discussion.
Bits of information to be collected include:
- Mission
- Brief History
- Where money comes from
- Where money goes to
- Current/recent budget
- Contact people
- Number of Volunteers
- Volunteer Jobs
- Specific current needs
- Tax status
- Upcoming/planned projects
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Contact information for "off-island" organizations that serve the
island could also be included. The group felt that this "catalog of
island opportunities" should be island focused and should "celebrate
the accomplishments of all the island organizations." Discussion
eventually came around to "maybe this is not ideally suited to an
online database - rather a published/printed document might be
better." A committee was later formed at the Community Club to
decide what the best way is to collect and make this information
public. Richard B to chair committee, Dave C (and others) to serve
Ride-Share - better served by "low-tech" means.
Garden Produce Swap/Share - concept not well developed enough to know
how a database might help.
Disaster Management Inventory - This has potential - it is
information that changes frequently and is updated by disparate
people. Dave C to work with Judith RT to get started.
Fire Crew/Ambulance Crew schedules - This might work, It would save
phone time. It would require that the members of the crews use the
internet and that the crew schedulers put in maintenance time
regularly. David RT and John W to work with Dave C to investigate
possibilities.
"Opt-In" email groups - this idea actually came from several other
groups, but it fits here so I (Dave C) added it. A way for people to
simply indicate that they want to know about subject X and an easier
way for people sending email to target people who are actually
interested in the subject. Dave C to develop a prototype.
Participants: Val, Bill, Nancy, Dave, Morgan
Summary of discussions:
Discussion held in the past - Bill. Narvaez Bay, Breezy Bay.
re potential for self-sufficiency in heating fuel & food.
Historical lands for grazing now cut off by development - Old Point Farm, etc.
Variety of historical orchards around the island still remain - could they be maintained, improved?
Could historical orchards in National Park - e.g. Narvaez Bay - be respected as heritage historical site(s) and maintained?
Note that Saturna School has a few allotment garden spaces available with raised beds and access to water, but has been challenged to find growers.
Carbon emissions negated with local grown produce
Vancouver Food Charter newly in place - possibly of interest
Book of interest - The Omnivore's Dilemma - food chains - note 'wild food' opportunities on Saturna - traditional hunting / gathering - berries, mushrooms, seafood, deer, gone wild fruit trees
Very little Saturna land agriculturally viable, but also much is fallow currently.
Options to diversify types of land use (crop rotation), access to land (allotment gardens)
Breezy Bay Farm currently has organic certification, and is not as intensively used as it could be due to lack of workforce / agricultural economics (low profitability)
There may be some greenhouses already existing on the island that are under-utilized
Note big variety of types of products already - from figs to .... - would communicating variety stimulate interest (e.g. like the bird sighting list)?
Saturna Store will buy local producers supply and sell through the store - but not a giant market
How to support 'green thumbs' - let the expert on X product produce enough for many, but be assured access to other desired products
Dilemma of the growers:
- What incentives could we provide to bring land into agricultural use?
- growing for use beyond own family presents challenges of product timing vs. when largest numbers are on island and likely to buy, and/or addressing food preservation - canning, freezing, juicing, drying etc
- Challenges of harvest and food marketing, sales, preservation - can we assist in addressing these barriers to success? Can pre-orders from committed consumers assist? Could we do community canning / other preservation projects?
- challenge of workforce - availability, reliability, skill, sustainability of expertise over time. Organizing volunteers can be too big a job in itself.
Action ideas:
· Keep a conversation of interested people going - build a community of interest around food production/ local food consumption
· Generate a profile of what's grown currently and where on the island to stimulate interest
· Promote ' buy home grown'
· Discuss establishing a 'Saturna Brand' - recognized for quality, etc. - note Mayne Island Farm doing big volume production of organic tomatoes and tomato sauce; Pender Island Agricultural Society & summer weekend markets
Convenor: Val Embree, Shirley Stonier
Participants: Morgan, Sebastian, Marg, Linda, Juliet, Michael, Jane, Laura, Ellen, Hubertus (may have missed some?)
Other participants who wanted to be included in follow up action, but were in other discussions: Nancy, Priscilla, (Lorraine C.)
Aims:
Be an umbrella coordinating group for a variety of initiatives that will encourage local food production and local food consumption.
Discussion:
Various people spoke to issues and opportunities:
- bounty of fruit or vegetable in one’s garden – what to do with it? Want to buy locally, but don’t know who has excess or what they have
- Participants have experience in
o Various kinds of gardening and orchard keeping
o community supported agriculture (pre-buy product from farmer at beginning of season)
o harvesting excess crop and coordinating delivery to urban Food Bank - last year’s example on Saturna of volunteers harvesting Money’s orchard fruit and getting it to the food bank was noted
o ‘slow food’ movement
o local and provincial clubs and associations related to seeds, heritage fruit trees, etc
o community mapping
Links to other concerns / values were noted:
- Food security and quality
- reducing our ‘carbon footprint’ to contribute to addressing climate change
- the ‘slow’ movement and valuing the local, and the beauty / creativity / intimacy / community of ‘close to home’ activity including food production, processing, consumption
- heritage on the land and in the food
- building capacity to address both bounty and needs.
Action ideas & identified leads:
These are not in any priority order.
Information development, communication, promotion, networking:
i.
Winter Garden Tour
in 2007/08 winter – aim: education and networking to promote winter food gardens
Lead: Jane D-W will organize and lead a tour next winter.
ii. Other seasonal food tours:
Lead: to be determined; Parks & Recreation Commission consider this activity?
iii.
Garden plots –
promoting, developing
School has 12 raised beds now,
courtesy of Parent Advisory Committee. There is room for additional 12. School
children use a number, and others are available to community members, though
terms, criteria, PAC cost recovery etc have not been articulated. A number
of people have expressed interest in having a bed over the weekend.
Lead: Laura & Juliet: Laura will put the questions on the agenda
for PAC to get some initial framework for discussion. Juliet will liaise
to represent interested gardeners. Broader communication of outcomes will
be managed by Laura & Juliet.
iv.
‘What does your
garden grow?’ Survey
Aim is to document and communicate the variety of foods gardeners are growing
here on Saturna to spark interest, much like Pam and Harvey’s bird sighting
list does for birding.
Design, circulate, collect, collate, report, publicize
Leads: Ellen, Val, Michael, Shirley
v.
Wild food harvesting
and uses - survey? Other routes to documenting, publicizing? Any issues to
consider first e.g. rare or protected items?
Leads: not identified
vi.
Historic and abandoned
orchards – these have value for food and heritage reasons.
Some are on various types of public land – CRD parks, federal parks – others
on private, but owners don’t have skills or enthusiasm to attend to them.
Could an interested group protect, improve, maintain these for public use
and enjoyment?
Campgrounds on marine parks on Prevost & Wallace Islands are in old orchards.
This is a great pleasure and has valued heritage significance. Concern that
federal Parks on Saturna already has a policy to return the old Saturna orchards
to forest and is not supportive of human occupation heritage as a park value
/ mandate. Are there heritage organizations who would express interest and
influence Parks?
Leads: Sebastian, Juliet, Michael (Bill Sheffield potentially)
Sunday p.m. update: Sebastian spoke with a Parks rep who indicated they
are willing to look at this, but would be needing to identify who would take
responsibility for care / maintenance.
vii.
Winter foods potluck
/ cooking demonstration / recipe swap – hold sometime November to February
This could be promoted in August / September to encourage planting of winter
gardens.
Leads: Val, Shirley, Hubertus
viii. Promoting local food distribution ideas:
Leads: not identified
ix.
Speakers, educational and information nights
/ events – how to prune, seed selection, etc etc.
Leads: not identified
Infrastructure to support, sustain interest and activity:
x. Create a local ‘Food Gardens’ Club to
Can this be framed and managed to draw in people with
a broad range of interests – e.g. link to sustainability, climate change,
etc?
Action: e-mail list and ‘bulletin board’ of information and events on the
Saturnacan website
Leads: Dave, Ellen (and Al Stonehouse?)
Convenor: John Wiznuk
Participants: Marg Bray, Kate Vigenault, Laura Dunsmuir, Ellen McGinn, Elisabeth McCall
Summary of discussions:
different levels of participation in emergency services, as auxiliaries, on Boards of directors, make people aware of opportunities, make it common knowledge.
Clarify roles, what is available for immediate medical care, not a lot, the role of Saturna Rescue [ambulance] is primary stabilization of patients and transport of patients to interface with medical evacuation as indicated, water taxi or air ambulance.
Prevention; our personal responsibility for fire and medical.
Changes in Fire Dept; new Firehall, possible change in bylaw and CRD connection, more public input needed and outreach from S I Fire Protection Society
The attitude that someone else is “taking care of it” has to be changed.
Its not just young people that can make a difference in emergency services.
Will there come a time when emergency services will come from off island? There is no statutory obligation to provide Fire, Rescue or Medical emergency service on the part of the community.
Convenor: Brian Dixon-Warren
Participants: Bill Schrembrucker, Hubertus Surm, Ellen Bourassa, David Cheslow, Dawn Wood, Bev Lowsley, Nancy Angermeyer
Summary of Discussions:
Free and full discussion of SCC history and roles, Saturna community rifts, and future resolutions and actions.
It was agreed that the SCC is an important and valuable organization. It's future may be that of an umbrella or clearinghouse organization that enables all community groups to communicate their activities and functions to the entire community.
For immediate action, the group suggests that the SCC invite the various groups on the Island to showcase their activities at the SCC meetings.
For the longer term, the group suggested that the SCC commission the compilation of a document that describes the functions, activities, and good works of the different service and advocacy organizations of the island. This document may serve to celebrate the activities of all these groups, assist the SCC in defining its future roles, and assist in identifying the responsibilities of the various groups for the benefit the whole community.
Convenor: Marg Bray
Participants: Marg, Bill, Frank, Suzanne, Ron, Pam, Dawn, Ellen
Summary of Discussions:
2 aspects of church: building / congregation
1. Building -
"I like it there"
"Important to have a spiritual centre"
"It is a unique building"
People love the building and feel it is valued by the community as a sacred centre. Many have memories of significant events in their lives marked in the church building.
"Glad the library makes use of the lower level"
Money is always short. The diocese considers that it important to support this parish. The building was built with volunteer labour on donated land, and "reluctantly given and reluctantly received'" by the Anglican Church. Because control of the building and its finances are off-island, the church on Saturna is under a "black cloud." We felt a loss of ownership when off-island took over administration. Being under the parish gives financial security; local control would mean more responsibility to cover costs. Question whether it is possible to reclaim the building and be disassociated with the Anglicans.
2. Congregation
Do we have a common reason to gather as a congregation? Do we have community resources to share/lead worship- lay ministry, bible study, singing? How do we make people feel welcome?
The church is a community resource. As a community we need to give acceptance, not agreement.
The diocese welcomes other inter-faith services. Traditional worship is not relevant for many. They may find the sacred in other places of worship - seashores, woods, heights, etc. There is latitude for many forms of worship.
We look at leaving the building open. All are welcome to worship in their preferred manner, to meditate, think and/or pray.
Convenor: Ellen McGinn
Participants: Ellen, Charles, Kate, Elisabeth, Joan, Jane, Bev, Richard, Bill, Jo-Anne, Val, Juliet, Brian DW
Ellen spoke to Climate Change as our biggest issue, she and Charles just returned from Antarctica, the Polar Regions so beautiful, yet where change is accelerating. But the place to save the Polar Regions is here! [and Ellen and Charles have some carbon debts to pay for all that flying]
First looked at was Transportation: ideas about using less gas led to suggestions of
--- a "share board" on Saturnacan, where people going to Sydney, or Victoria, or Vancouver post their trip dates, and they co-ordinate sharing rides (one way or both ways). A hard copy could be posted at the stores or at recycling, for those who don't use computers.
--and also--volunteering to pick things up for people would save more trips, via the "share board".
--- AND/OR have a series of standard "ride" cards ("Victoria", "Sydney", "Richmond", "Downtown Vancouver") that any of us could post on our vehicle in ferry line-ups or on the ferry indicating that we were open to riders... maybe put a title like "Saturna Green Plan" on the top of the cards.
*{our low-work favourite.}
--- the idea of a couple of co-op vehicles (mini-buses?) that could save many weekenders having to bring their cars over -- say one that goes out to east point, one to the south side areas. maybe extend this to services that will allow park visitors to not need to bring cars.
------------This could become a job for someone, lets make jobs that
support these goals, lets use our community resources such as the Scribbler to share ideas and plans.
--and what about foot-passenger-only ferries?
--- alternatives such as community bicycles or scooters or golf-carts (or a legal 2-person alternative) could be for weekenders, park visitors, seniors.
--- taking the bus can get a bad rap, but when the schedule works, it’s good. we need a value change. this is marketing: "the joy of the bus". [and when you're going to miss the bus, look for the ride signs in our cars]
At this point, Elisabeth and Kate both recommend the book HEAT by George Monbiot, as a source of sharp commentary on problems and their causes, AND on solutions we can act on ourselves, or lobby for collective action. from Monbiot, almost all sources of excess carbon dioxide can be diminished, except air travel, where there are just no technologies even in test stage --- suggestion for useful action is make your "dream" trips once every 3 years instead of once a year. We could turn this to advantage by promoting a "Slow Movement" (like "slow food") Movement -- and market the pleasures of Saturna as a slow movement destination.
Second look was at The Home: ideas based on personal choices
--- leaving unneeded lights on, and wasteful high-energy light bulbs got dinged.
--- staying warm? wood is the least detrimental way, as long as the wood is dry, the fire hot**. but there are a lot of new technologies for those planning to build, as well as passive solar and high insulation methods that can reduce energy required to stay warm. and geothermal heating is getting cheaper.
---lets not forget the sweater Jane was knitting -- turn the thermostat down a few degrees, put a sweater on.
---other electricity use -- you find if you're off the grid you use one-third the energy because you have a known limit.
---and on a Community level, can we rework Zoning to encourage a
concentration of living (a town centre?) that encourages walking and biking over driving? It could be done with some forms of density transfer, one favoured was forestland to village centre, but our forests are mostly Park now. It requires finding and encouraging other landholders to consider. This in turn needs a plan and co-ordination.
Third was Food:
---speaking of the "slow food movement", we really do need to grow locally, eat locally. The unmeasured carbon cost of Peruvian asparagus is unjustifiable!
--- the Scribbler could hold a "winter vegetable recipe contest", promote 100-mile food idea.
--- island growers might be more willing to grow for sale if there was a subscription plan, so they knew they had buyers.
--- amazing what can be grown on Saturna -- maybe we should have an inventory of food, as well as birds.
--- community gardens for those without good land or water... turns out the school has raised plots waiting for users -- call the school. AND/OR organize a community of gardeners.
Repeating Themes:
-- there are things we each can do as individual choices -- there is information available, websites -- we need to keep putting them out, more people will get interested in time.
-- there are resources in our community that could be activated, the challenge to the community is to create an enabling environment. Resources can be used to sponsor new group energy, rather than be asked to take on more tasks themselves. Information gathering (including feasibility info), leading to information sharing, co-operative efforts, contests and encouragements.
-- define collective needs, find a way to co-ordinate, make the task become a paying job for someone. Make our need to reduce our energy footprints into opportunities.
Topic Champion: Elisabeth
Those Who Will Assist: Laura, Jim, Shirley, Michael, Ellen, Jo-Anne, Jon, Linda, Dawn, Frank, Pam, Jane, Judith, Gary
We started with a review of the main points discussed on Saturday, “Share board”, “Ride Cards” and how to implement something as soon as possible.
Proactive – use less gas; reduce carbon emissions in our own community.
Discussion - how to develop a share board for both the mainland and Vancouver Island, how to identify vehicles in the ferry line-up whose drivers would be willing or have room for more passengers...rather than one vehicle one person.
Where should the share board be located? Suggestions of both the stores, the community hall, with agreement settling on the area near the post office. Most residents check the bulletin board near the post office when they come to collect their mail. Not only should be destinations be identified, but if the driver is going to make a round trip or if he/she is willing to pick up some specific items for someone on the island, similar to the prescription pick-up now being used.
Immediate Action – for the drivers – they could use the reverse of the ferry destination signs (recycle) to indicate their destination and how many passengers they can carry, or use our name tags supplied by the open space gathering which can be dangled from the rear view mirrors and are readily visible. Jim Campbell offered to approach the Community Club for funding for vehicle signs and costs for a “share board”. .
Jon Guy advised that he is using his freight service to pick up and deliver items from or to the island for minimal fees – shared green services using one vehicle to transport many items less fuel used and less ferry space occupied. He is also working on a method to use – recycle – all the vegetable oil available through the pub as bio-diesel to fuel his delivery vans.
Jon is also investigating the use of electric bicycles which could be used by island visitors allowing them to come here without their vehicles. The bicycles, valued about $850 - $1000, could be stationed at the store by the ferry terminal for rental purposes.
Further discussion around how BC Ferries treats foot passengers from the Gulf Islands. Suggestions about approaching the ferry corporation to request assistance in solving this problem, by having bus service to the dock so that the ferry passengers only have to walk a short distance rather than through the whole terminal which is very inconvenient especially when carrying supplies.
Action Plan - Start now or as soon as possible with car share. Approach the Community Club with a request for some funding. Have things set up for the week of the 5th March. We need to educate the greater community through an article in the Scribbler, placing notices at the Rec Centre, Recycle, both stores. Place a sign up board near the post office as most people use that facility. Elisabeth has asked Jon to purchase a board to be placed at the post office as he is heading to town on Monday.
We need two systems – one while in the ferry line-up to indicate destination specific or general.
One for drivers to indicate planned travels with specific destinations and how many passengers they can carry to be posted on the post office Saturna Ride Share board.
This system can also be a great ice breaker...get to know your fellow community members. There is also an expectation that information about the Saturna Ride Share will be passed by word of mouth.
Future Action – We also need to look at a longer range ride share. Transport from East Point, the Vineyard, Narvez Bay to other areas on the island should be included in the plan. The ideal would be to have access to two mini busses to transport people from East point and the Vineyard, also to be used to transport visitors around the island. All of these ideas will require funding, perhaps through the government...federal or provincial.
A mini van service with a regular schedule to allow residents from these areas access to the ferry or general store is also needed. Perhaps this can be piggybacked on the mini van the school was hoping to have the use of for the SEEC students (idea thrown out without consultation with Steven).
Also mentioned as a possible action was the development of a part time job for someone to coordinate the Shared Ride plan including the scheduling and mini bus operation.
The Plan – We need clear signs made out of erasable material. It must identify vehicles as belonging to the Saturna Ride Share program as a challenge to other islands. Information about the program is to be disseminated via the Scribbler, word of mouth, and Saturnacan web page. Board needed at the post office for drivers to indicate their ferry plans which will need to include the driver’s name, phone number or method of contact. Signs in vehicles so foot passengers who have not had a chance to sign up for a ride know where vehicles are going and if there is room for passengers.
Another item of interest was how to stop drivers from running their vehicles while in the ferry line-up. There is signage at the school requesting that drivers turn off their vehicle engines while waiting, perhaps the same idea could be used along the ferry waiting area designed and made by the school students. Shirley has a bumper sticker “This vehicle only idles for 12 seconds” which she says makes her more aware.
The Law of Attraction
Convenor: Barb Ropars
Participants: Paul Bruhn, Sebastien Gadbois, Linda Cunningham, Shirley Stonier, Frank Godwin, Janet Land, Graeme Bregani, Sharon Schermbrucker, Bill Schermbrucker, Gary Mercer, Brian Dixon-Warren
Summary of Discussions:
Barb Ropars introduced "the law of attraction" from the book The Secret: the central idea is that our thoughts are extremely powerful and can affect our lives, especially if we think and visualize in positive ways. Everybody Barb knows on Saturna has chosen to be here, and the island is full of positive energy.
A majority of the group supported the idea of positive thinking as a way of producing positive outcomes. Several people told personal stories of how positive outcomes resulted from purely mental changes from negative thinking to positive thinking and visualization. While our culture focuses on negativity, e.g. the news, we have free will and can choose to reject negative thought and replace it with positive. People have actually cleared their bodies of cancer cells by means of positive thoughts. Prayer released one participant from dark negativism and allowed for a more fulfilled life. Positive thinking can produce results both small and material (like a new pair of running shoes when they were needed) to spiritual, like the dissemination of seeds of positivism that spread invisibly through hearts and minds, even on the battlefields of war.
A minority in the group expressed contrary views, seeing positivism and ultra-positivism as forms of clinkering which ignores the problems faced by people who are born into disempowerment and repression and face situations, which restrict and constrain them and even put their lives at risk. The example used most often was that of an Indo-Canadian woman forced into an undesired marriage and ending up brutalized and dead. One participant denied being on Saturna by choice.
The argument swung back and forth between these two types of viewpoints, and the discussion was respectful, without producing any obvious converts to one side or the other. On the positivist side, one
participant related how he came only with the greatest reluctance to accept his mother's teaching that "the more you give away the more you get back." Another spoke of the influence of Sartre and the existentialists in convincing him that his whole life was a result of free choices. On the negative side one participant asserted that there are many improvements needed on Saturna, yet one is not even able to speak about them for fear of litigation; the counter to this argument expressed was that the rule of law protects all of us from libel and makes us free to express ourselves within limits. Positivist references were made to Norman Vincent Peale, Norman Cousins and the Dalai Lama.
The discussion ended with a focus on the value of Open Space communication, comparing it with the Living Room Learning that used to take place in the old Davidson house on Saturna, as told to Barb by Lorraine Campbell--and with a contrary view expressed that our societies have been so damaged by slavery that we will take centuries to get over the effects.
The Convenor said that her next ventures of positive thinking are into "the four agreements" of Toltec culture and Feng Shui.
Convenor: Priscilla, Notes by Athena
Participants: Invited Guests from the Tsawout Nation included: Gwen Underwood, Patti Underwood, Harry Underwood. The chief of the Tsawout Nation is Allan Claxton. The Tsawout members of the group were clear that they did not speak for the Tseycum Nation. (Cora and Vern Jacks--Chief of the Tseycum Nation--sent a letter saying that they were unable to attend and wishing us success.)
Other members of the Saturna Community present: Priscilla, Dave, Steve, Athena, Jon, Nancy, Annie, John, Richard, Michael, Frank, Bill, Elisabeth.
Background: Saturna Island is the ancestral home of the Tsawout and Tseycum First Nations of the Coast Salish people. They inhabited these islands for thousands of years. Over the past two hundred years, Europeans have displaced these people from their land and made it impossible for them to support their families from the land. The reserve land on Saturna now owned by the Tsawout and Tseycum Nations is 364 acres, now named Fiddler's Cove on the eastern coast of the Island. The First Nations name for this place meant "sunny place to dry salmon." The Tseycum First Nations now live in Pat Bay near the airport and the Tsawout live on the way into Victoria, just past the Mt. Newton X-Road intersection. No members of the Coast Salish currently live on Saturna, but they do use their reserve land for hunting and camping.
The Saturna Community is a group of about 300 people living on the Island year-round and many other part-timers. The majority of these people are of retirement age, described with fondness as a "surplus of elders" and "an old-growth forest". The community is close-knit and everyone helps each other and cares about each other. There is a shortage of affordable housing, lack of young families with children and scarcity of employment opportunities.
Overview of Discussion:
The Tsawout and Tseycum First Nations and the Saturna Community have a lot to offer to each other.
· Overall feeling of respect for the First Nations' long-standing connection to the Island from the members of the Saturna Community.
· Face-to face meetings help to generate mutual understanding and dispel fears and rumours.
· Communication creates a spirit of understanding. Everyone becomes better neighbours.
· We all share a love of the natural beauty of the land, a love for our children and a need to have a place to grow, live, heal and support our families. The reasons why the present Saturna Community members moved here are the same as why the Coast Salish lived here.
· The First Nations allow Saturna Island residents to walk on their land, and keep an eye on it, but they do not allow camping or fires. The property is not open to the general tourist/visitor.
· The Tsawout have debts from building a Health Centre and want to build a Gymnasium, so they are considering some possibilities for generating revenue from their reserve land. They also have a growing population of young people, with needs for places to live and jobs. They are just in the discussion phase of considering possibilities. Nothing has been decided. But things are going to change. Some possibilities include:
- highly selective logging, like what was done on Mayne Island, taking into consideration the species-at-risk (They don't really want to log, but this is an option.)
- residential development, to attract young people, First Nations and others, perhaps low- cost housing, modular homes.
- a First Nations' long house village site, to be ready for the 2010 Games. The Gulf Islands National Park Reserve has expressed interest in co-sponsoring this.
· The First Nations intends to meet with the Saturna Community to discuss their plans when they have made them before they proceed.
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Great, Exciting Ideas that sparked from coming together:
· First Nations Tribal School and SEEC collaborating to provide hands-on, land-based education for native and non-native children. This education would fill in the gap in the regular school curriculum of the history of native use and knowledge of this land. (Steve Dunsmuir will attend a Tribal School Board Meeting as a first step. Contacts: Steve Dunsmuir sdunsmuir@sd64.bc.ca and with head of school board, Curtis Olsen (contact Rebecca Clifford 250-652-2313 who organizes school board meetings)
· Summer recreational programs for native and non-native youth, with native and non-native counselors, like "Project Rediscovery." This could be connected with SEEC. Athena will talk to Steve and Gwen about this idea.
· If young First Nations families move here, finding ways to connect them with apprenticeships with trades and other jobs that may be vacant in the future, with the aging population on Saturna.
· Set up regular communication between the two groups, in face-to-face meetings, but also reports in the Saturna Scribbler (email for submissions: scribbler@saturnacan.net) and the Tsawout Band Newsletter (email for submissions: webmaster@tsawout.ca)
· Create a memorandum of understanding between the two groups. This is especially needed because Islanders walk on the property and First Nations come to hunt and camp. And because sometimes tourists camp without permission and have fires. John Wiznuk jwiznuk@yahoo.ca and Gwen Underwood shaysema@shaw.ca are connecting to do this.
· Inviting the First Nations canoe races to the Lamb BBQ!!! What fun. Maybe sending the Saturna Coconut Shy to the annual canoe races?
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Topic Champion: Priscilla
Those who will assist: Annie, Charles, Jo-Anne, Nancy, Athena
Next Steps:
SEEC liason with Tribal School: Steve Dunsmuir will attend Tribal School Board Meeting
Summer Rediscovery Camp at Fiddler's Cove?: Athena will field the idea with Gwen Underwood, but doesn't want to undermine SEEC energy
Saturna First Nations Map Project: Priscilla and Nancy?(not sure about
this) will search out possible funding sources to hire a native artist
to connect with native elders and other research sources and draw a map of Saturna
Joanne- will take the first step to invite the First Nations canoe
racers to Saturna, perhaps to race with the Saturnina?
We were all interested in helping the First Nations come up with
alternatives to logging their Fiddler's Cove land, but no concrete
action steps were suggested.Charles had experience wiith modular home designs that don't look like cookie-cutter homes.
Convenor: Dave Cheslow
Summary of discussions:
No one with knowledge of the Rec Centre's mission, objectives or finances was in attendance
Since the building already exists, the question really is:
"how can the community get enough benefit from the building to justify the cost of maintenance?"
The building is wonderful, it is centrally located, it should be possible to get value for the community from it
The school should be a great benefactor
SEEC seems to be a project that might be able to make use of the space
No other ideas, sadly.
Convenor: Jane Dixon Warren
Participants: Dawn, Janet, Ellen, Patti, Priscilla, Suzanne, Sebastian, Graeme, Marg, Juliet
Summary of discussions:
It is up to each of us to take action and talk to people we don't usually talk to. We need to let go of grudges and not talk negatively about others. The law of attractions indicates that people will react the way we expect them to so we should expect positive response. Instead of complaining do something positive.
Remember that we may not agree with an individual on one issue but agree on others. The blessing and challenge of living in a small community is that we have to learn to live with all sorts of people. It is like a family that may have disagreements amongst themselves but as family must work together on things that are important.
There is often frustration in dealing with some groups. This might be improved with a change in structure, format and/or process. Having a circle creates a more inclusive atmosphere.
Teltec principles can be helpful: be impeccable about speech, don't make assumptions, don't take things personally and do your best.
Focus on the good aspects of the island that draw us together, the lamb barbecue, pig roasts, sports activities, recycling, the free store, the general store etc.
Session: Conservation and Parks
Convenor: Juliet (Conservation) Pam (Parks)
Participants: (please forgive if I’ve left you out . . .) Gwen, Priscilla, Kate, Paul, Jo-anne
Elisabeth, Laura, Judy
Summary of discussions:
Participants discussed various issues related to conserving the natural environment, including:
1 Public access to natural spaces, public and private. More and more property that long-time residents used to walk and hike is being developed. As a result, it’s more important that islanders not only know the boundaries of public/park lands but that they (and visitors) know and respect protocols about accessing private property. As “the places we walk (public assets) get lost for private gain, the only way around it is through public education,” for example when a developer provides space in a development for a public park. We also need to show our appreciation for private areas (e.g., Fiddler’s Cove) we are allowed to visit. (By the way, there are 50 public accesses on the island.)
2 The need to provide more information to islanders, particularly newcomers to the island (i.e., all new property owners) with historical, environmental and ecological detail pointing out ecologically sensitive areas and environments, introducing the First Nations lands and restrictions for visitors, and outlining protocols for obtaining permission from property owners to walk their land. A publication could be produced to provide this information, or it could be included in the official greeter package. Articles in the Scribbler could also contribute the information. Any published material would focus on the positive ways people can support “this exquisite island.”
3 The official Saturna Parks liaison with Parks Canada is effective, but depends on the community to provide input. Community members should use community processes to provide input to the Parks
Committee representatives so that it can be passed on to Parks Canada. Shared efforts have focused so far on basic infrastructure concerns such as establishing the helipad.
4. Ways to encourage a smaller footprint of new homes/dwellings. If the natural beauty is the biggest draw to the island, it’s of paramount importance the landscape stay as unchanged as possible. This can be a difficult sell. Providing extensive ecological information to anyone planning to build would help people make more informed choices related to building.
5. Importance of bringing back native species in gardens. There’s interest in planting indigenous plants and getting rid of invasive species. What can islanders and/or government agencies do to help?
6. Concern was expressed for conservation of land and water at the molecular level: for example, discharge from boats in the harbour, waterborne pollutants from the old dump. Are parts of the island being contaminated by PCBs or oil in the harbour? We don’t know. This big issue affects not only people but also plants, wildlife and sea creatures and needs community support to take charge of the situation, for water sampling and engaging government support for clean-up and regulation enforcement.
7. The First Nations community is planning to develop their land in some way, as yet undetermined. They will meet with the Saturna community once their plans are in place to find areas of cooperation and partnership.
Convenor: Steve Dunsmuir
Participants: Gary, Joanne, Nancy, Richard, John W., Pam, Ellen, Linda, Morgan, Barb, Steve, Bill S., Bill S., Michael, Elisabeth
Summary of discussions:
1. Steve presented "What we Believe" as the foundational philosophy of the Saturna Ecological Education Centre: SEEC.
2. Update on where SEEC is at as of this week: High school program has been publicized and we should know level of interest in the next few weeks. Elementary program is in development. There are also many other opportunities for ecological programming.
3. Members of the group asked questions about SEEC and offered suggestions for community involvement.
4. Volunteers ...
* Barb Ropars volunteered to sew and create learning resources and items such as curtains for cabins, blindfolds etc.
* Elisabeth McColl volunteered to provide a homestay space.
* John Wiznuk is interested in developing and offering a navigation and sea-faring course in which SEEC learners could become involved. He may also be interested in mentoring a high school student in water management. He could also be a valuable resource for fire/safety/emergency preparedness training.
* Nancy Angermeyer has offered to look in to the use of some of her land for SEEC activities.
5. There was much support for the idea of SEEC and the general mood was positive and constructive!
Participants: Gwen Underwood, Harry Underwood, Frank, Dave, David, Richard, Ellen, Pam, Michael
Summary of discussions:
Frank said, and others agreed:
Stories are my interest. It’s important that people know their stories and what went before, and what the intentions were of those people. Then we can take those intentions along with us, and they can continue to influence the future.
Gwen identified resources for history of Salish people on Saturna:
- Dr. Earl Claxton Sr., Tsawout Reserve 1 888 652 9101 - historian with Saanich Native Heritage Society
- also see "Saltwater People" - school district resource book by Dave Elliot of Salish Nation
- There is significant effort underway to collect and consolidate the information of elders.
Gwen spoke about the Salish people on Saturna, reflecting in part her own mother's experience as a child.
- People traveled with the seasons, and particularly for clam digging and fishing.
- Winter Cove was a look out point, watching for raiders from other First Nations from the North. Gwen's uncle says when he is here, he still sees people here, doing their job of looking out, watching out.
Harry spoke of the many sites of activity and many stories - examples include the role of Tumbo Island as a place for training of shamans, lots of stories related to rum running days, and cross over of traditional songs between the longhouse and the church and the Salish tradition of 'shake' to deal with sickness or difficulties.
Gwen offered some comments on things to pay attention to when coming alongside First Nations sites, artifacts or history:
· some artifacts that can be found on Saturna are appropriate for the public record or public display; some are related to ceremonial activities and are not intended to be in the public domain, and should not be in public view.
· opportunities and issues of development can be seen in the events related to the Poet's Cove development on Pender. There were extensive artifacts unearthed going back 5,000 years, but there is also a court case related to the extent of the development impact.
· there are discussions with Parks Canada and the Saanich Native Heritage Society to document place names; it's not clear yet how else Salish heritage will be addressed. There is discussion of an interpretive centre using a federal building adjacent to the Poet's Cove development (as a result of the issues / court case / excavation work ? not sure)
Interest was also expressed in addressing gaps in information / understanding about the presence and departure of Japanese residents on Saturna, documentation on the shale popping plant and its operations and impacts on Saturna, as well as more accessible and systematic information on the 'remittance men' of the first wave of settlement, as well as others.
Action ideas:
The group addressed the question - 'ideally, how would we like to share historical information on Saturna, including information on the Salish people, with people who come to Saturna Island?'
The recommendation to make it visual, building on the community mapping approach and the existing style of the Saturna community map with pictures and words reflecting history and uses etc.
The idea of a series of maps, each focused on a particular group or time period (e.g. one focused solely on the Salish), was enthusiastically supported, with a view to having them posted on information boards at key park information points.
A collaboration between Saturna Island community and the .... Alliance (Tsawout and other communities) to create such a map was suggested to positive endorsement. Question: What is Parks Canada planning or role in related to heritage interpretation?
Convenor: Joan Selby
Participants: Judy, Kate, Bev, Joan, Nancy, Brian, Paul, Frank, Annie, Elisabeth
Summary of Discussions:
What is currently available:
Fears and Concerns:
Hopes/Dreams:
Miscellaneous:
· There is a lack of labour on island for small, low-paying, but important, jobs
For future open space meeting: we should look at how we can measure our successes and outcomes.
TOPIC CHAMPION: Brian Dixon-Warren
THOSE WHO WILL ASSIST: Janet Land, Paul Bruhn, Jim Campbell, Jon Guy, Bill Schermbrucker, Richard Blagborne Gary Mercer.
NEXT STEPS:
1. Compile a document describing what the major organizations on island are and what their source of funding is.
2. Identify tax resources that could return to the island in a paid administrative position on-island.
3. Disseminate the information that: a) the Community Club constitution was changed to allow it to be more than a recreational club and be able to represent the community, which it has done; b) Property owners’/ratepayers’associations used to be given credence by government, but they have become anachronistic and are treated by governments as special interest groups; instead, the people who live in a community are now considered prime.
4. If we hold a forum on the question of who represents the island, outside witnesses such as the MLA should be present to see the divisions that manifest themselves.
1. Angermeyer, Nancy
2. Blagborne, Richard
3. Bourassa, Ellen